Q&A with Brian Warner

  1. What is your stand on Theologies, specifically New Covenant Theology and Dispensationalism?
    (What is your stand on New Covenant Theology, Where do you stand on dispensations?)

    Theology: the study of religious faith, practice, and experience, especially : the study of God and of God’s relation to the world

    We must first and foremost understand that Theologies are derived of man trying to understand God and his relationship to Him through viewing the scripture with guidelines or rules. 

    My view is we have to be very careful when we start taking theologies as if they are derived of God not man. 

    New Covenant Theology and Dispensationalism both offer a set of rules for viewing scripture and how to turn around and understand how the scripture should in turn affect you or not. I do not strictly agree with either. There are aspects of both that I could say I agree with. In order to fully answer this question in a meaningful way it would take hours.

    So here is Brian’s Theology that he applies to every passage he reads: What is this passage telling me about God? What is this passage telling me about man? What is it telling me about their relationship? How does this affect us today and draw us closer to God so that we can be a light in this world and spread His love to others?

    If you want more specifics on any of them, come and talk to me in person. Anyone who would like further reading here is an article on DesiringGod.org that touches on all three major Theologies and then gives John Piper’s view. Link

  2. Where do you stand on teaching about end times?

    It is part of the Bible and should be taught. Just like the Old Testament and the New Testament. Do I think that it should be taught with the same level of repetitiveness as the Gospel and Christian living 101, NO.

    I am continually discouraged by the number of believers who can’t give a basic Gospel outline while talking to a friend and have the confidence/understanding to lead someone to the Lord. That is where we need to be teaching on a regular basis.

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  3. Who do you see as being a deacon when you are pastor?

    I don’t know. There are men in the church who are capable of doing it. There are men who are qualified to do it.

  4. In a practical / actual way of relieving the burden of Pastor Mark, explain what you will be doing.
    (Why do you have to be pastor to help Pastor Mark with ministry, are you not doing that now? Do you see you doing more as Pastor then you are now, can you be specific?)

    Why do you have to be pastor to help Pastor Mark with ministry are you not doing that now? Every member of this church had better be able to say that they are helping Mark with ministry or else we are failing as a church. At the least we should all be praying for him. So no, no one here has to be a pastor to help a pastor to do ministry.

    Do you see you doing more as Pastor than you are now, can you be specific? Yes. I am a huge fan of a life philosophy of, if you see a problem it is now your problem. Churches have a problem. For too long churches have taught invite your friends to church and let the Pastor lead them to the Lord. This is wrong. The Church is a place for God’s people to get together and worship Him. The Pastor teaches the congregation how to draw closer to God and how to share that love of God with others. So we are to invite our believing friends to church. Now please do not mistake this there will be evangelical (Gospel filled) sermons in the church with the intent of leading people to the lord. There will be guests that come into the church that may have never heard the Gospel. One of my areas that I would love to help believers grow in is personal evangelism and discipleship.

    Will that in any way practical relieve the burden of Pastor Mark? Maybe. Serving alongside with others is always a relief.

    Ecclesiastes 4:8 – 12

    one person who has no other, either son or brother, yet there is no end to all his toil, and his eyes are never satisfied with riches, so that he never asks, “For whom am I toiling and depriving myself of pleasure?” This also is vanity and an unhappy business. (9) Two are better than one, because they have a good reward for their toil. (10) For if they fall, one will lift up his fellow. But woe to him who is alone when he falls and has not another to lift him up! (11) Again, if two lie together, they keep warm, but how can one keep warm alone? (12) And though a man might prevail against one who is alone, two will withstand him—a threefold cord is not quickly broken.

    All through the New Testament we see pairs or groups going out. Paul, Barnabas, and Luke were one such group.

    My goal specifically is to serve the Lord in the capacity that He has chosen for me. By helping Mark on as much of a personal level as I can: pick him up when he falls, slap him when he mess up (of course in brotherly love), encourage him when he is weak, pray with him in times of trouble, rejoice with him in good times, rejoice with him in bad times, be a light in this dark world, help keep a balance of power, and grow God’s church.

  5. What is role of women in church?

    Everything that isn’t contradictory to what the Bible says women can’t do in the church.

    1 Timothy 2:11-12

    Let a woman learn quietly with all submissiveness. (12) I do not permit a woman to teach or to exercise authority over a man; rather, she is to remain quiet.

  6. Are you looking for a percentage of votes to know you are called? Simple majority? 50%

    I would like to see 2/3 majority or more one way or the other. If the vote is really close there is a reason for it. I would like to get to the heart of those issues before moving forward. It may be the church doesn’t want me to be a pastor of the church, it may be the church doesn’t want multiple pastors, it may be that now isn’t the time for any of the above. But if the church is going to call me I would want it to be the church not a few of the church.

  7. What will you do if not voted in?

    At this point I don’t think anything would change from what I am currently doing.

  8. Why do you want to be a pastor?

    There is no greater joy that anyone can ever experience than sharing their love of Jesus with others. God showed me this when I was a very young Christian as I witnessed to my first person in 7th grade. But then came discipleship I didn’t really know what to do so I recommended that he got into a church. Over the years I have realized a lot of Christians don’t know how to disciple. I love teaching. I love it when the lord softens someone’s heart and grants them understanding thus drawing them closer to Him. The talent or the gift that God gave me is teaching. I do alot of it at work, at home, at church. I know my greatest joy on earth will always be serving the Lord with the gift that He gave me. I have a passion for teaching others how to teach and disciple others, an area that a lot of churches are weak in.

     

  9. What do you believe is the greatest hindrance to our spiritual growth as a church family right now? Divisions and the thinking that the pastor is to do all the witnessing.

    1. Division – There are way too many things in the church today that are seperating the body of believers. Theologies (Covenant Theology, New Covenant Theology, Dispensationalism, Calvinism, Arminianism) most of these I would say people argue over without even really knowing what they are arguing over. Physical items, pews vs chairs, pavilion vs parking lot, mask vs no mask, modern music vs old hymn music, tradition vs modern, orange vs blue or green. It is like we are all constantly trying to find a soap box to stand on. But my question to each person that wants to stand and argue any of these is “Who have you shared the Gospel with today, this week, or even this year or decade?”, “Who have you reached out to and shown the love of Christ to?”. Until we are unified as a body that wants to reach out and be a light to the community nothing else matters. Let’s face the truth Pews vs Chairs has no impact on the big picture and that is sharing the Gospel.

    2. Thinking it is the pastors job to do the witnessing. If we are to really look at the New Testament Church we see that the apostle did the initial witnessing and got the churches started. Then we see Elders (pastors, bishops) being set up in the churches to feed the flock (teach them how to live for the Lord and share His love with others). Then the congregation lived it out. They grew the church. We as a church are failing in two areas here. I believe that the members are not out witnessing to others because they don’t know how, and I am praying that it isn’t because they don’t love Christ. If they don’t know how that is the pastor’s fault. Because through sermons, through sunday school, through bible studies they should be learning how to share the Gospel. As the pastors primary job is to feed the flock. But, if the members don’t love Christ more than themselves there is a much bigger issue and that is present in our church.

      The church will not grow until the members are unified as a body of believers and loving God through their actions – Witnessing to others, serving others and serving in the church, using the gifts that God has given them.

       

  10. Is it wise to be a pastor, family man and have a full time secular job with demanding hours? Is that best for CBC? God’s Kingdom? (How are you going to balance being pastor with being a father and a husband and a full-time employee and care for your home and your extended family?, You both have limited time to invest in your work at CBC – how will that change (be adjusted) as pastor?, Bible has pastor a full-time position. How will you do that?)

    God’s Kingdom should always be first and foremost for all of us regardless of what we are doing. We could even look at Paul and how he used making tents, his Secular job, to have a place to stay with fellow Jews.

    Acts 18:1-4

    18 After this Paul[a] left Athens and went to Corinth. 2 And he found a Jew named Aquila, a native of Pontus, recently come from Italy with his wife Priscilla, because Claudius had commanded all the Jews to leave Rome. And he went to see them, 3 and because he was of the same trade he stayed with them and worked, for they were tentmakers by trade. 4 And he reasoned in the synagogue every Sabbath, and tried to persuade Jews and Greeks.

    I tend to view my family as my first ministry, my secular job as my second (outreach), and my church as my third ministry (teaching, building up).

    Is that best for CBC? This is up to the church. I have an outreach at this point that Mark doesn’t have because of my job. I have struggled with which is of greater value. The relationships I am building in the world or the ones I am building in the church.

    Is it wise to be a pastor, family man and have a full time job? Yes and no. It would solely depend where the focus is. I have learned more scripture at my SECULAR job than I have in any school or church. My job covers my family expenses and helps support my local church. While allowing me to often listen to scripture and sermons while I work. This time has drawn me closer to God than I have ever been. I would pray that adding in a pastoral position would give me the ability to share what God has been teaching me with others in the church. Family time is always a struggle and always will be regardless of any church positions.

    I am not sure where someone is getting the idea that a pastor has to be a full-time position. I want to be completely honest – I do not want nor am I able to take on another full time position. I already work way too many hours. If you are looking at voting for me thinking about it as a full time position please vote NO. But if you want someone to help Mark and stand next to him and be available when he can be, that is different and I am okay with that.

     

  11. Where do you stand on social issues?
    Specifically Drinking, Smoking, Living with someone before marriage

    Personally and pastorally, the two are pretty much the same for me. I do not hold any of it against a non-believer for they are living in sin anyways. Now, when we are talking about a believer that is different – now we have to look at things like the fact that their body is the temple of God. Smoking isn’t healthy in any way and therefore is destructive to the temple of God. Does that mean that their sin is worse than another sin. No. This would be an area where they need help growing closer to God. By encouraging them to depend on God for peace and not on smoking. Someone who has an issue with gluttony is in the same position as someone who smokes from my view. They depend on a substance to bring pleasure verse serving God.

    Consuming alcohol is not a sin. Substance abuse is. There is a fine line between a casual drink and becoming addicted. If someone told me they have a beer ever once in a while it wouldn’t phase me nor do I think it would be something that would interfere with their relationship with God. If they told me they had a drink every night when they got home to help them relax, now there is a problem. They have put that substance at a higher value than their relationship with God. That is an issue. Being that it can be so easy for people to slip into that position I tend to discourage drinking at all. I personally have had a drink. I don’t much care for the taste of alcohol and therefore could care less about drinking.

    Living with someone before marriage is never a good idea. I believe there is always a better alternative. Why do I believe it is a bad idea? Their passion for each other will almost always outweigh their love for God. This will lead to sex outside of marriage. That is sin and not glorifying to God. Now, I am assuming that is the heart of what is being asked in the question.

     

  12. How do you feel about holding a social event with no devotional or group type presentation of the Gospel?
    This sounds very much like trunk or treat to me, or being involved in a parade or having a tent set up in the street fair. These are not bad things and non of them had or have a devotional or Gospel presentation in them. But they let the community know we are here and give the church an opportunity for the church members to share the Gospel. I think there are great times for the church to do activities that can include the Gospel such as the Christmas Eve service, or the Harvest dinner. The point is we do both already, it is just a matter of the way we look at them. It is very easy for us to jump on our soap boxes and start creating division in the church yet again with just a different topic.